Vanessa Agard Jones, co-director of Black Atlantic Ecologies, spoke with Tiffany Jaeyeon Shin and Eileen Jeng Lynch at Wave Hill about a variety of topics including queer ecologies, fugitivity, toxicity, and decoloniality. Professor Jones reflected on Tiffany Jaeyeon Shin’s Sunroom Project Space exhibition M for Membrane, which explores the membrane, mystery, and magic of microbial forms, fungi, and indigenous mold.